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that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have changed since last week, but it seemed like president obama was saying something that he was planning to say if it came down to the last few days. >> joy, is this the same kind of negotiation we saw in the first term? >> well, richard, one of the things that you didn't see the president do is to offer a new plan and he is laying the debacle at the feet squarely on congress and for the all to see where the dysfunction lies and the president helped himself by making offers that even his base was uncomfortable with, because it is fair to everyone that he is reasonable and trying to make the offers and that the intransigence is on the other side and he is expressing proper proper properlyly the frustration of the american people. >> and now it moves to mitch mcconnell from harry reid. and we have sound from mitch mcconnell on the house floor and harry reid. >> we had a good discussion with the majority leader with the hopes to come forwar
far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time getting them to agree to his packages like plan b last week. we don't know out here on the public how much has changed since last week, but president obama was saying something he was planning to say. >> joy, is this the same thing? >> one thing you notice the president didn't doll is off any new plan. he's laying this debacle squarely at the feet of the congress. the president helped himself by previously making some offer that even his base was uncomfortable with because it's now clear to everyone watching he's been responsive. i think he's expressing the frustration of the american people. >> clarence, the game seems to be moving to rich mcconnell and harry reid. i think we have some sound bites from mitch mcconnell and harry reid on the senate floor. let ee cease if we can one that now. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. we're engaged in discussions, the majority leader, the white house, and myself in the hopes that we can come forward as early
, republican house speaker john boehner put out this stirring call to action. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans but as americans. we want you to lead. not as a liberal or conservative but as president of the united states of america. >> mr. president, we are ready to be led. just show us the plan. that was encouraging. that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geithner made a special trip all the way to john boehner's office on capitol hill. he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you
farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say all along. >> it's almost like the white house is stepping out. i think we have some sound from mitch mcconnell talking about the next steps. let's see if we can run that out. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, if majority leader, myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> i'm going to do everything that i can, i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with, this is going to be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we are. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the
you don't want to be is john boehner. he's under fire from both democrats and republicans for not helping victims of sandy. >>> plus secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to make a full recovery after suffering a blood clot near her brain. so much for her critics on the far right who suggested she was faking being sick to avoid testifying about benghazi. >>> and let me finish with the reason it's hard to avoid a fiscal cliff. we begin with whether anyone really won in the fiscal cliff standoff. howard fineman is the director for the "huffington post" media group, steven walsh with the wall street journal. let's look at who came out the winner on this fight. on the right there's some significant disagreement. here's what bill kristol wrote just before the house vote. quote, politically republicans are escaping with a better outcome than they might have expected. and president obama has gotten relatively little at his moment of greatest strength. then there's conservative commentator charles krauthammer. >> in the house who hate the bill and for good reason. i mean,
if they work out a deal that's acceptable to the senate, then it's going to go to the house. speaker boehner has said they'll either vote on what the senate produces or amend it. that's a lot of work to get done within a day. and i think there are a number of house republicans still holding out, believing that they would rather vote to cut taxes after january 1st than vote for a deal now. >> so there's physically no time. >> i think it's very tough. >> well, but what dan's also saying is that just because the senate reaches a deal, even with the administration, there's no guarantee there are republican votes in the house to do it. >> yeah. we've seen that problem throughout the past few weeks. >> yeah. >> meanwhile, democrats say the biggest setback came earlier in the day when senator mcconnell proposed changes to social security benefits. in an exclusive interview on "meet the press," president obama said he had been willing to compromise to that issue as part of a larger deal. >> one of the proposals we made was something called chain cpi, which sounds real technical, but basically makes
. the president had put serious spending cuts on the table. he and speaker boehner a week and a half ago were this close in a $4 trillion deal, they were 200 billion apart on revenues and 200 billion apart on cuts and then what happened, all of a sudden, speaker boehner decided to do this plan b. he went back and for a week tried to raise the amount that you would extend the bush tax cuts to people over a million dollars, couldn't get -- the plan was flawed from the beginning. instead of trying to get a bipartisan deal with democrats and republicans he try the to win over the 50 most hard right conservatives in his body. it fell -- wait, wait, it fell apart and it's leading us to this last minute so our choice is simple. avoid the fiscal cliff and people's taxes going up or do nothing and let it happen. we didn't want to be in that position but speaker boehner pulled out of the deal a week and a half ago. it's not fair to blame the president. >> i have to ask you about this question. this is one of the big sticking points left. whose taxes go up, people making over $250,000 as the president w
in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say a all along. >> take a listen to the president's tone and tell me if you think somebody has changed. >> ordinary folks. they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> joy, is this is same kind of negotiator we saw in the first term? >> i'll tell you, richard. one of the things you notice that the president didn't do was offer any new plan. i think he's laying this debacle squarely at the feet of congress. and the president, i think, helped himself by previously making some offers that even his base was uncomfortable with. it's clear to everyone watching that he's been reasonable to try to make offers. i think he's expressing plopperly the frustration of the american people. >> it's almo
it passed through the chamber and send it to the house. house speaker boehner made it clear he had not move first. he wants to see the senate act. the ball is now in the senate's court for all intents and purposes. >> sam, isn't it a bit late in the day to be playing this game of chick snn. >> i don't know what constitutes late in the day at this juncture. i guess we have a few more days, a couple more hours here. i think there's a general consensus we probably will hit the cliff, but that doesn't mean they can't hurry and get something done a day after, two days after, do it retroactively. the hit that would be felt by families would be minimum in that case. a lot of negotiations. we'll see what mcconnell and reid can pick up and forge together. >> nbc news has been reporting that the president's holding firm to this position of not cutting taxes for people earning more than $250,000 a year. you've been talking to republicans all day. will republicans vote for a plan that looks like the president's first offer, $250,000? >> republican senators specifically were really looking for a $400,00
, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> let's take the american people out of the line of fire in terms of taxes. >> it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> i have never known john boehner not to have a plan. >> it seems pretty dark right now. >> it looks like there's no way there's going to be any deal done. >> so i say to the speaker, take the escape hatch we've left you. >> we're not going to get anything done that doesn't involve some measure of compromise. >> it's not 100% sure that's going to work any longer, and now that we know how fanatical the fanatics are. >> it's like blah, blah, blah. >>> a very busy day here in washington and we want to take you right to the senate floor where senator mitch mcconnell is act
within 48 hours. >> 85 republicans crossed the aisle to say yea. boehner turned a page in his statement saying, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people re-elected a republican majority in the house and we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he promised. >> very rare a speaker and leader diverge. how much damage did the fiscal fight do to the speaker and the house and the senate? >> one thinks of the napoleon quote that you have don't interrupt the enemy when they're destroying themselves and you guys just waited around long enough and the republican party did that, didn't they, chris? >> a lot of republicans are faulting speaker boehner. they totally ignored him, they undercut him. >> you had an agreement last night. >> we have this totally dysfunctional senate and there are a dysfunctional congress and no wonder our back is up against the wall at midnight and we get some kind of -- this terrible deal that's thrown in our laps. >> so what was it like to be in the room when republicans voted on that deal? joining me now from capitol
of senator boehner. tax rates increase for those over a million dollars. you are a guy that is well known as a conservative. in principle isn't that something you think hurts the economy? >> no question what the president wants to do is bad for the economy, sean. what concerns me is we are now three days away from a really bad law taking effect which is increasing tax rates on everybody, huge increases on capital gains, massive increase on dividends. this is destructive. i see my mission in part to try to absolutely minimize the damage. unfortunately, i don't have the ability to repeal that law and the democrats control two out of the three parts of the elect ared government. i will fight as hard as i can to minimize this damage. but i got to be honest with you, i mean we got a pretty tough hand to deal with here. and we can't just change that law by ourselves. >> sean: it seems to me senator johnson three things that maybe the president hasn't thought of. number one if the president goes over the fiscal cliff on his watch the optics are not very good for him. while he may think there is
? is it to finally strike a deal? honestly, no one knows. but one thing is certain. house speaker john boehner and his fellow republicans could no longer weather the incredibly bad optics of sitting at home while the president of the united states and the senate were in washington. president obama arrived back at the white house this morning. the president will host a meeting tomorrow afternoon with senate majority leader reid, senate minority leader mcconnell, speaker boehner, and leader pelosi at the white house. senate majority leader harry reid took to the senate floor this morning to, shall we say, let boehner have it. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll have -- they'll give them 48 hours' notice. the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allo
departure, the president called all four congressional leaders, reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. now fiery words after reid hit boehner with volley after volley from the senate floor earlier today. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days after today aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll have 48-hours notice. i can't imagine their conscie e consciences. >> speaker boehner's office responding with a terse statement saying in part, quote, senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. senate democrats have not. joining me now from d.c. nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, there was word the last hour that the president may have sent some sort of deal. the white house then turning around saying that's not true at all. where was the confusion? >> reporter: well, you hear the frosty statements back and forth as you just indicated there, craig. ah, the holidays in washington. a
a wonderful holiday because the president's is about to end. boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls
was because of the deal -- >> john boehner. because of john boehner. >> partly, mitch mcconnell force ed john boehner's hand. >> we expect senators to do that. that's what republican -- republican senators have always spent us deeper into debt. that's what they do. that's their hobby. >> look, in this round, the president got a ton. and liberals who are complaining are most worried not about the terms of this deal but about whether the president's got a weak hand going into the next round. the president, as you pointed out, has said as recently as sunday with david gregory, we need to do medicare reform. we need to do entitlement reform. when we deal with the sequester cuts in two months, when we deal with raising the debt ceiling, even though the president wants to keep that out of the debate, republicans are going to have another chance with leaders like john boehner and paul ryan making the argument. and i think the president once again is going to have that k n confrontation. >> how many trillions do you think they'll add to the debt, mika? paul ryan -- i had the tenth amendment on a lit
of the new year? if so, can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? if not, what move might the speaker make knowing that time is running out? good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo on this first day of 2013. we've got a deal in the senate and now it's to the house. the republican conference will meet at 1:00 p.m. to strategize their way forward. the democrats in the house will meet at noon to figure out their move. nbc's luke russert joins us now live from capitol hill. he's following it all. luke, we understand that you've confirmed that a very special guest will be present when the democrats meet, when the house democrats meet. who is it going to be? >> that's right. for the first democratic caucus meeting of 2013 they'll hear from none other than vice president joe biden who will come here to capitol hill to brief them about the deal similar to what he did last night for his senate democratic faithful. he was really influential in helping get a lot of democrats to vote for the bill. it is expected he'll do the same thing today when he talks to his house democratic friends.
operated with a dictator ship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on footing. >> john boehner's office fired back -- senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. >>> the president gets set to land in washington this hour. there's new word that the president has called all four congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hur
>> is the president setting up house speaker john boehner here for a majority of the house vote? >> that's the real question right now. right now, the focus is on the senate. what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you know, ill'm still very dubious. but if there is a deal, it will be with a majority of democrats in the house and there's a political risk for boehner in that. >> thank you. you've been watching "hardball." we'll be back in one hour with an all-new live edition. until then, "politics nation" starts rite now. >> thanks, richard. thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for business
in place. >> is john boehner sticking to the old rule, the denny hastert rule, that you need a majority to bring it up for a vote. if the majority is not there of the republicans who are the majority in the house, he is not going to bring it up for a vote, or are they discarding that give this current crisis? >> he's never been officially wedded to that majority of the majority idea. that has certainly been his goal in most if not all of the legislation that he's brought to the floor. this and a few others have tested that goal for sure, but look, this is something that republican speakers, hastert included, starting with hastert, have wanted to do to make sure they have the support with within, to make sure that there isn't any kind of revolt, there isn't a question of their leadership. even though it has not been an easy road for john boehner, and that has been an understatement, i have not detected any real sentiment in the rank and file to have anybody but john boehner as their leader. to be honest with you, based on what boehner has gone through, it is hard to see anyone wanting th
.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to speaker boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if washington. that shouldn't be the test here, it shouldn't be the consideration. but senator reid has had it
>>> if you're a member of congress and a member of the tea party, who's your boss, john boehner, m.i.t. rom mitt romney? don't bet on it. the angry man or woman in the back row of the tea party, the angry one that stands up and scolds him, you betrayed us, you are one of them. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership or worse yet, the democratic president, or the one who voted against all of that and stayed true to the purity of the tea party dogma, no taxes, no deals, no compromises, no nothing, period. this is the wall the tea party have raised up, the wall beyond which people who captured. what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get
and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think a vote can happen tonight. but tonight might not be defined by the final hour of 2012, but instead whatever time in the wee hours that document can get ready and get to the senate floor. so many people who work in the capitol who are not directly involved, from those who operate the trains that get from building to building to staffers on the senate floor to keep things moving to security, so many people working waiting for this to be resolved. political arguments and disappointments within the democratic side as we expect there to be among republicans as well. no deal gets everything people want. there are come radio mizes for people. and this is a smaller deal than many hoped there would be. it gives a short-term period before they have to
and boehner are meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff. we are hearing the president's planning to present a smaller offer. for the latest, we bring in peter alexander from the white house and mike viqueira from capitol hill. peter, let's talk about what's going on at the white house meeting. i hear senators are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white hous
, but ultimately john boehner has said he wants the majority of republican members of the house to vote for whatever deal happens. that's a key factor. they have to agree to something that president obama also agrees to. that's a big gap. basically he's -- i don't know that there's 120 house republican votes for that yet. plan b was voted on, a -- house republicans wouldn't approve of that, either. the how is like a big block here on any kind of permanent deal. >>> i want to bring in debbie wasserman schultz, florida democrat and head of the dnc. congresswoman, when you look at what's happening today, you know, this meeting that's going to be happening at 3:00 p.m., what's going to be talked about there, what do you think? >> look, as long as the leaders are talking, there is still time for us to hammer out a deand prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff. what will be talked about today is what do the outlines and parameters of a possible deal look like that can be agreed to by a majority of democrats and republicans. really i think the key thing here is, will john boehner, instead
negotiations and john boehner and senate leader are working on a deal this morning to avoid the fiscal cliff, or as chris hayes and i call it, the fiscal curve. the deadline is soft. it's not like every american is going to be handed a bill on january 1st and there's way to manage the damage if the country goes over. the senate is set to convene this afternoon with the house to follow tonight. there's a chance that a compromise will be reached, less than 48 hours before tax rates revert to their clinton dasher are levels and board across the board spending cuts talk effect. when the president took to the podium friday afternoon to urge the law enforcements to get their act together with he didn't exactly project confidence. >> this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> this may be why the pr
boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> it is very hard for them to say yes to me. take me out of it. and think about their voters. >> he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. ♪ we could have had it all ♪ rolling in the deep >> we start at the white house where at this very moment all four republican and democratic congressional leaders are meeting with the president, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news? >> reporter: well, we do know this, a source familiar with these talks says that president obama is not going to be
bleak. >> speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. >> o'donnell: it took a trip to the white house and a package scolding from the president. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. >> o'donnell: but by week's end, senate leaders agreed to make a last-ditch effort to get a deal. >> so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm going to do everything i can. i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. >> o'donnell: we'll have the latest on what that agreement might look like but will it actually do anything to cut the deficit? and what happens nay don't get a deal? we'll hear from two senators who have been working together on deficit reduction, assistant majority leader dick durbin of illinois, and senator tom coburn of oklahoma. then we'll look forward to 2013 with an all-star panel include peggy noonan of the "wall street journal." dee dee myers of "vanity fair." "time" m
cuts to expire for everyone except those making under $250,000 a year. john boehner plan "b" making $1 million. this looked like president obama coming back with the same deal at 250. they are miles apart. >> kimberly: you were able to speak to people on the hill. what was your reaction? >> andrea: the president spread the stories that he will come to the table with a deal. swan dive off the fiscal cliff, hold your nose. we're going off. president obama wants to us go off hecht will come back with a largeer plan. the obama tax cut. then he will be able to reintate across-the-board sequestration cuts. 8.2% across the board. cut defense and health. they will be able to reintate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say look, i am voting for something. i am voting to restore tax cuts for the middle class. voting to restore great thin things. republicans are in a tough position. no one will say vote to restore the tax cut for rich. this is his game plan from day one. >> eric: what is the a terptive? $250,000 and above? we see obama not oftenning cuts at all. looking for
through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obviously, mcconnell doesn't want to have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry reid got this through the senate,
criticism about the president's tone today on "meet the press." this is what john boehner had to say, blaming the failure of a deal on the president. >> your response? >> well, that's very interesting, chris, because speaker boehner has refused to even hold a vote in the house of representatives on the president's proposal. we're not asking speaker boehner to endorse the president's proposal. we're not asking republicans to say they want to endoris the proposal. we're simply asking for a vote. we believe that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he said
with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful of in this very, very critical last 48 hours is that the senate will act, they will find common ground and i also hope that if that doesn't h
reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan b stunt no further legislation can move through the se
in 2012 voted aye. speaker boehner also voted i. mike emmanuel mentioned the chairman of the did he have it and debt commission to deal with this did he have it and debt came out with a detailed statement. i'd like to read it here. quote, the deal is a missed opportunity to do something big to reduce our long term fiscal problems but it small step forward in our efforts to reduce the federal deficit following on the one trillion dollar did he have it? spending. both steps advance efforts to put our fiscal house in order neither done, nor -- one nor combination of the two come close to solving problems and loaders must have the courage to reform our tax code and entitlement program such that we put it on a downward path as a percent of the economy. washington missed this magic moment to do something big, recuse the deficit, reform our tax code and fiscal entitlement programs we've known over a year this fiscal cliff is coming. washington politicians set it up. forcing them selfs to deal with our nation's lng term fiscal problems. after taking the country to the brink of economic disaster,
-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying they don't think that the tax rate should go up on anyone. so taxes still the major sticking point. right now the negotiations are going on the hill and there's a lot of optimism that came from the talks yesterday. of course, president obama hosted congressional leaders at the white house and they left that meeting and many said that it was constructive and they were optimistic that a deal could get done and i've been talking to my sources today and that same optimism isn't really present right now. there's
conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. i just have to repeat. you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repea
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